Polls proving MOST of America is with US

Of course one argument is that this is just the internet savvy portion of the population, but the rest are still fooled.

Evidence to dispute that theory is the Zogby 911 poll (via phone) that had 50% of New York City believing that the US Gov't "Conciously Failed to Act". 50% !!! Needless to say the MSM buried that poll.

LOL- here's another poll, fresh from Lou Dobbs 2/23/06

98% Believe the Bush Admin puts Corporations over the Nation

Tell me again, why are we stuck with spineless "moderates"?

I don't go with the impeachment crowd crap. I say round up as many of the ziongressional traitors as possible and take em' over to Judge Roy Bean's house of the law. The rest of the scum calling itself " our government " will start-a-runnin'. We The People cut em' off at the pass and...well...if we get this far the partee will only be gettin' started. YAHOOO

I agree with "A Citizen". I hope there are enough lamposts for all the hangin' that will be needed.

You make some very good points. I think that the discrepancy between the online polls and the phone polls can partly be attributed to the fact that, in general, republicans are less likely to keep up with politics, polls, and such. I am a student at Texas Tech University. The day after Bush gave his most recent "State of the Union" speech, I asked everybody I know whether or not they listened to the speech. Amazingly (not really), the only people who said that they listened to the speech were liberals. This is not to say that there aren't any republicans who keep up with politics, but it seems that the majority are unaware of what is really going on in our country, and this is especially a problem in states such as Texas, where the large majority of people are republican de facto.

castration is whats needed.

this whole gang of murderous scumbags is not to be allowed to reproduce.
save the nation with some sterilization.

Sounds like it's time for American Revolution 2.0. I think this administration is counting on the fact that as long as people can vent harmlessly over the internet they will not actually do anything that will make a lick of difference to the Repugnican agenda. Kinda like a thousand points of light in reverse...dispersed over the web and amounting to nothing significant. Truth is useless when it isn't followed up with an appropriate response. When will America reach the tipping point? When everyones comfort level is affected. Until then y'all will wait for someone else to stand up and do something. I'm sure here in Canada we'll be overwhelmed with citizenship applications. Come on up, the water's fine here.

STINKING GREASEY!

Johnny Howard wants to sell our Australian public health subsidy scheme for $1billion.

Guess how much the new "non-compulsory" Australian "smartcard" will cost!

You betcha...........

It's to replace 17 cards now in use by millions of Ozzies. Biometric info + a microchip (wonder if its bluetooth/RFID)

hello Big Brother, goodbye little people.

free energy device, anyone? I want to start a dirigible community that floats like a caravan park in the sky.

We could fish/trawl for birds and grow hydroponic vegies far from the clutches of the desperate dying world below...........yeah?

It's pretty easy to find that 32%. How many of the people in this country are racist? How many a-holes? How many are liar cheats and criminals? How many are just plain idiots? These people make up the republican party.

George in United States of Israel
Quote from Nixon's tapes--after 3 days in office
" I'm surrounded by a whole lot of FKN jews"
Just last week, Bush appointed 2 more zionist Jews to tthe office. Let's take America back-send a message--no jews need apply.

Howard Zinn tried to make us all aware of the evils within our society more than forty years ago. He had no platform such as those mentioned here. Instead, he made up for it all with intestinal fortitude and persistance. It is somewhat heartening to see that the "real" media who two years ago looked as if they were complicit with the "Crooks and Liars" by saying nothing and suppressing as much of the important stuff they could get away with. (The internet is a blessing
for freedom ---------if we can keep it!) This belated change says that the movement is picking up a head of steam. Its beginning to look alot like a real "squeaker"

All in all, in spite of what the polls say, what do we see happening?

Even though the people disagree with the morons in power, no one is actually DOING anything about it! Everyone is sitting on their collective asses, watching the idiot box and eating junk food. God forbid that any of them should get off their couches and DO something about it!

In truth there is much being done...mostly quietly, methodically and with care. This is the way it must be done because overt, rash and knee-jerk reactions will accomplish nothing except to have the dissenters and investigators mysteriously commit suicide or meet an untimely end in some accident at a convenient time. Patience is not only a virtue it is a bitch, but patience is what it takes to bring down an entrenched criminal organization such as has taken over our government over the past 30 years or so. Hang tight and know that there are honest people from all political sides who are working to bring the government back in line with the ideals of the founding fathers.

i am a racialist - but loath "w" more than anyone i know. the stupid idiot who equates racists with liking "w" is a fool raised in government schools. where exactly has "w" promoted the interests of white men??????? fool - if you are white. commendable if you are non-white.

There are primarily 3 reasons why the results differ that greatly -- all 3 add up to produce the large discrepancies:

1. Polls conducted unfairly to manipulate
2. Internet polls are typically international, and Bush's approval rate anywhere outside the US is prety close to 0% - Blair and Merkel aside, I still have to meet any non-US person who approves of Bush (and I've spent a lot of time in European countries).
3. The Internet is where you can still go for real news -- therefore people who participate in online polls are more likely to know the truth than people who get their news coverage exclusively from the MSM

"United we stand, divided we fall" and we're not very far from the bottom. In my 76 years of living, both in the U.S. and around the world, I've not seen, on such a global scale, this kind of political chaos and unmitigated intent to destroy everything and anything - and with such horrific vengeance - unleashed on those who stand in the way of this administration's pursuit of Empire. Now we have the weapons, both nuclear and biological, to put us all back up in the trees. I'm sure Darwin would be shocked to see how quickly we've de-volved. As some pundit once said "When you're in a hole up to your neck, time to stop digging." Time to get rid of the shovels. ....Great Grammy B.

The exit polls showed Bush getting 42% in 2000 and 38% in 2004, and these are very probably accurate, as these polls were released by insiders within the network polling organization, that definitely did not want these results released to the public.This of course implies massive vote rigging in both elections, for which there is now mountains of evidence. Since then it is a very fair bet that Bush's support has declined; how much, there is no way of knowing.

The onl;ine polls are interesting, but are not really valid, primarily because the net community is by its nature largely hostile to the mainstream media, which is controlled by the super-wealthy in America. A large minority still gets its info from the mainstream media, which spoonfeeds them what its wealthy owners wants them to think about just about everything.

There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that the establishment polls are rigged, as a way of preparing the voters to accept the results of the rigged voting machines in such places as Florida and Ohio. But even Fox News is admitting that Bush is down to 32%, so it is not impossible that at least some of the big official polls are really honest. This may however a Machiavellian manoeuvre to convince people that Fox polls are to be trusted - they may adjust them as election day nears.

Of course, the mainstream media could also rig their online polls, but obviously, they don't, perhaps because they don't consider it important.

There have been suspicious discrepancies between polls and official results for a long time, and the CIA is known to have had the theoretical ability to rig US elections for a long time. Colby testified to Congress about this way back in the 70's, and the CIA is known to have rigged the Italian elections back in the 40's to keep the Communists from power.

For an example of a suspicious discrepancy, several universities conducted post-election surveys of how people voted in 1972. McGovern was overwhelmingly defeated in the official results with only 38% of the vote, but in the two post-election surveys mentioned he received 48% and 51% - a statistical dead heat.

The bottom line is that Bush is indeed very unpopular, but probably still has a third or so of the population more or less uneasily behind him. But his support is soft, and could quickly collapse altogether if the economy deterorates much further or we are defeated in war.

Also, we are almost certainly being governed by people who were never honestly elected in the first place. Uncorrupted elections would have elected big Democratic majorites in the Congress, and a Democratic president. It is also possible that the Bush's have been rigging Democratic primary elections, so even when a Democrat gets elected he is a closet Republican, as Clinton was.

I would like to add a few thoughts to my previous post.First, even though online polls are 'biased' (if that is the right word) against the right wing, because online people are FREE to discover whatever truths they can accept, and are not led around by the nose by the wealthy (who own and control all the mainstream media) nevertheless, in one important respect online people are biased against many of the groups that make up the Democratic party.

For example, spanish-speaking people are unlikely to post here on an english-language site. And few poor or black people are online, or have time to surf the net. Also, gay people often do not feel welcome on sites run by straight people. And so on. What online polls really reflect is the views of well-informed, white men who are pretty net-savvy, and who are not necessarily liberal by any means, but who dislike the Republicans because of their ties to the wealthy and to fundamentalists nuts.

The second point is, that although online polls are not by themselves a reliable guide to the electorate, nevertheless they are very significant in that they indicate a sea-change in the political thinking of the American middle-class. The kind of well-educated, middle-class white people that dominate the net, USED to get most of their news from newspapers, controlled by a handful of rich men, and they voted mostly Republican. The internet has revolutionized the political thinking of this very important group in American society by giving them access, for the first time since the early Republic to an essentially FREE PRESS. This is very dangerous for our rulers, and is why getting the internet back under the control of the wealthy is one of the first priorities of the Republican party.

Third, many groups in American society have only a limited access to the net, such as the poor or inner-city/rural blacks, but nevertheless vote Democratic, in spite of the propaganda they see on the TV. When you add these voters to the typical online voter, it is easy to see WHY the Bushes and the Republican Party have been driven to rig elections - they can no longer win fair elections in America, even with all their money to persuade people.

It is really AMAZING the effect the net has on people's political views. I live near Greenville, South Carolina, where the main newspaper is the Greenville News, an extremely Republican paper with ties to Bob Jones University (famous for its racist, anit-Catholic, anti-Jewish, homophobic and creationist policies. Well, this paper conducted a poll of its readers in 2004. Kerry won the poll over Bush 52% to 48%! Unbelievable. I was curious, and looked up a lot of Deep South newspaper polls. Kerry won them all, sometimes by margins of 10 to 1. The typical white voter in the South is by the way A LOT more liberal and Democratic than Yankees suppose - vote-rigging is an old Southern institution, and South Carolina is known as one of the 'safe areas' where voting machines have long been rigged.

In my opinion Bush has been pulling the wool over our eyes (or trying to) since day 1. It'll be a fine day when he's outta there!

Steve

ONE IN 3 AMERICANS SAY U.S. AIDED 9/11

SURVEY SHOCKER

August 3, 2006 -- More than one-third of Americans suspect federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new poll.
The survey also found that 16 percent of Americans speculate that secretly planted explosives, not burning passenger jets, were the real reason the massive Twin Towers of the World Trade Center collapsed.

The national Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be...