Who told the Senate that Saddam had WMDs capable of attacking the East Coast?
Direct evidence of LIES. Somebody tell the mainstream media.
1. “Someone”
took the Senators into a closed door session and told them Saddam had UAVs capable of hitting the East Coast… they voted on the Resolution soon after.I, along with nearly every Senator in this Chamber, in that secure room of this Capitol complex, was not only told there were weapons of mass destruction–specifically chemical and biological–but I was looked at straight in the face and told that Saddam Hussein had the means of delivering those biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction by unmanned drones, called UAVs, unmanned aerial vehicles. Further, I was looked at straight in the face and told that UAVs could be launched from ships off the Atlantic coast to attack eastern seaboard cities of the United States. Is it any wonder that I concluded there was an imminent peril to the United States?
As far as I know, it has never been revealed who that “Someone” was that told the Senators about this threat… was it Cheney? They always say he’s got ‘gravitas’.
Bush also claimed (threatened):
“We’ve also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States.”
mp3 audio — or — slideshow format
2. Dick Cheney
If you missed the Downing Street Memo Hearings, this is from CIA veteran Ray McGovern’s opening statement:
On August 26, 2002, less than 5 weeks after the briefing at 10 Downing Street, Vice President Cheney gave a major speech in which he said, “We now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Among other sources, we’ve gotten this from the first-hand testimony of defectors including Saddam’s own son-in-law.”
This was a lie.
Saddam’s son-in-law, Hussein Kamel, told us just the opposite when he defected in 1995. Again, he told us just the opposite. You can find it on page 13 of his debriefing report. He said, “All weapons, biological, chemical, missile, nuclear, were destroyed.” How did Kamel know this? He was in charge.
They were destroyed in July 2001. I’m sorry, in July 1991 at his order. Why? To prevent the U.N. inspectors from finding them after the war. And everything else, everything else Hussein Kamel told us checked out to be true.
Cheney’s lie would have been able to stand were it not for the conscience of another patriotic whistle-blower who gave the text of Kamel’s debriefing to Newsweek 4 weeks before the war as the drumbeat for war got louder and louder in early-2003. Newsweek broke the story on February 24, 2003, several weeks before the attack, but the information was suppressed by U.S. media.
3. Bush
10/01/02 “Of course, I haven’t made up my mind we’re going to war with Iraq.” - list of such lies
This theme was a huge part of selling the war. At the time, they were claiming that “war was a last resort” often, this vote in Congress was supposed to scare Saddam into disarming, it was not a “vote to remove Saddam from power”, as Bush claimed.
11/11/05 “When I made the decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Congress approved it with strong bipartisan support.”
Again, the vote was not to remove Saddam from power- this is a HUGE lie. Wouldn’t it be nice if someone in the media would actually call him on that lie in a tv interview…. I dream of the day that a tv journalist decides to risk their career and really grill Bush, not just move on to the next question.
4. Condoleeza Rice
“The fact of the matter is that when we were attacked on September 11, we had a choice to make. We could decide that the proximate cause was al Qaeda and the people who flew those planes into buildings and, therefore, we would go after al Qaeda…or we could take a bolder approach…”
That’s not how they sold us the war!
It wasn’t like, “let’s spend $300 billion to remake the Middle East” - it was “We don’t want the smoking gun to come in the form of a Mushroom Cloud.”
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Bush told us there were killers, “barbaric killers planning to attack us” (mp3) - now Condi says they decided to take a bolder approach to sponsor a US makeover of the entire Middle East?!
5. Rumsfeld
“So the money’s gonna come from Iraq’s Oil Revenue as everyone has said. They think it’s gonna be something like $2 billion this year, they think it might be something like 15… 12 next year, they think it might be something like 18 to 20 plus… 19? - the next year.”
The war has already cost US $300 Billion… with all $300 billion going to weapons makers like the Carlyle Group, Lockheed Martin and to rebuilding firms Halliburton, Bechtel, etc… the Military-Industrial Complex has ‘earned’ $300,000,000,000 attacking and occupying a country that was not a threat to us, and American citizens are suffering as a result, though not nearly as much as Iraqis. These Bush Admin Lies have damaged America.
Wake up media. Stop being mouthpieces writing articles like: Bush says he didn’t Lie, Hadley says Bush didn’t lie, Cheney says they didn’t lie… they did lie and as a result 100,000 are dead and we’re out $300 Billion. Do you really believe that, “they’re lying again to stay out of prison” is an absurd notion?
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Other sources proving Bush’s claim (that Congress had same intelligence) to be false- ie a flat out lie. But the mainstream media reports it as if it’s true, just like they did with the pre-war lies.
Bush Resurrects False Claim That Congress Had “Same Intelligence” On Iraq
Asterisks Dot White House’s Iraq Argument
A great collection Iraq WMD Lies: The Words of Mass Deception
Rep Waxman’s Iraq on the Record- 237 misleading statements in a searchable database
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November 13th, 2005 at 8:22 am
National security adviser Stephen J. Hadley, briefing reporters Thursday, countered “the notion that somehow this administration manipulated the intelligence.” He said that “those people who have looked at that issue, some committees on the Hill in Congress, and also the Silberman-Robb Commission, have concluded it did not happen.”
And Judge Laurence H. Silberman, chairman of Bush’s commission on weapons of mass destruction, said in releasing his report on March 31, 2005: “Our executive order did not direct us to deal with the use of intelligence by policymakers, and all of us were agreed that that was not part of our inquiry.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101832.html
There seems to be a disconnect here. The White House is confused and they think by lying that they are somehow going to change reality. If they have nothing to hide, why do republican controlled committees keep voting down investigations into intelligence, like the recent Resolution of Inquiry into the WHIG documents? If they want to illustrate their credibility why not support an investigation proving their innocence?
November 15th, 2005 at 12:49 pm
Of course they lied. The real question is why.
A Zionist alliance with al Qaeda would be a total threat to the Western world. Especially if those Zionists had an agenda of spreading extreme anti-Semitism (to gather more sympathizers) and portraying Israel as an untrustworthy rogue state (in order to sabotage the road to peace) wherever possible.
Once you’re in that zone, you’ll be asking questions like why was Chandra Levy in Israel the week before she was murdered? Whose flag was being flown in this false flag operation against US intelligence overseer Gary Condit? After Monica Lewinski, a lot of Democrats would secretly suspect sexual espionage. Who wanted that?
Why would Israelis at the O-Pee-Chee bubblegum factory in Brooklyn, New York want to be seen filming (and LOUDLY celebrating) the World Trade Center inferno? Whose flag is being proudly flown there? Why? Once you’ve established what, the next logical step is determining why.
November 15th, 2005 at 2:03 pm
on the whitehouse website Ari admitted they were keeping information from congress…
“Q: It seems to be any classified information. So that’s anything that the White House decides should be classified and they don’t want to share with Congress.
MR FLEISCHER: The classification decisions are made by the appropriate intelligence officials. And, again, the President is going to make certain that this information is provided to the Congress so the people who need to know it will have full ability to have it, and he wants to make certain that the circle is diminished, so that nothing inadvertent can happen.
Q: Isn’t it a huge shift of power to the Executive Branch?
MR FLEISCHER: That’s correct — that’s what the President has decided.”
November 17th, 2005 at 9:58 am
This all (”war on terror”) is just Orwell’s 1984 playing itself out. Jews (Pharisees) and “Sadduceans” of modern-day, Falwell, Robertson, and Limbaugh (who’s actually a Jew, I now understand) leading the corrupt elders in support of Bush and “neo-con” conspirators. I’m afraid this forest fire will continue until it just burns itself out. Otherwise “elders” need to learn and find out “Judeo-Christianity” is contradiction in terms; Christianity is supposed to be antisemitic and designed to protect us fm Jew lies. But “fools die” and unfortunately there seem to be so many left, as I say. God help us. A.
November 17th, 2005 at 1:22 pm
Benjamin Netanyahu Testifies About Iraq to Congress
Aired September 12, 2002 - 14:32 ET
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, FORMER ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: … form our own judgment today.
Did Israel launched that preemptive strike because Saddam had committed a specific act of terror against us? Did we coordinate our actions with the international community? Did we condition this operation on the approval of the United Nations? No, of course no. Israel acted because, it understood, we understood, that a nuclear- armed Saddam would place our very survival at risk. And today the United States must destroy the same regime because a nuclear-armed Saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk.
And make no mistake about it: If and once Saddam has nuclear weapons, the terror network will have nuclear weapons. And once the terror network has nuclear weapons, it is only matter of time before those weapons will did he used. You cannot prevent a dictator who has used terrorism in the past, who cavorts are and supports and encourages terror organizations from using this weapon by giving it to someone, by having them threaten to use it against his enemies. Once one of the terror regimes, once one of the principal regimes in the terror network, has nuclear weapons, you cannot prevent the terror network from having nuclear weapons.
Two decades ago, it was possible to thwart Saddam’s nuclear ambitions by bombing the single installation. But today, nothing less than dismantling his regime will do because Saddam’s nuclear program has fundamentally changed in those two decades. He no longer needs one large reactor to produce the deadly material necessary for atomic bombs. He can produce it in centrifuges the sizes of washing machines that wan be hidden throughout the country.
And I want to remind you that Iraq is a very big country. It is not the size of Monte Carlo; it is a big country. And I believe that even free and unfettered inspections will not uncover these portable manufacturing sites of mass death.
So knowing this, I ask all the governments and others who oppose or question the president’s plan to look at it from the other end of the logic: Do you believe that action can be taken against Saddam only after he builds nuclear bombs and uses them? And do the various criticism, specially overseas, believe that a clear connection between Saddam and September 11 must be established before we have a right to prevent the next September 11? Well, I think not.
I’ll try to try give analogy. All analogies are imperfect, but here’s one. If you try to defeat the mafia, you don’t just go after the foot soldiers who carried out the last attack or even stop with the apprehension of the particular don who sent them. You go after the entire network of organized crime — all the families, all the organizations — all of them. Likewise, if you intend to defeat terror, you don’t just go after the terrorists who carried out the last attack, or even the particular regime that sent them. You go after the entire network of terror. All the regimes that support terror, all the organizations that they harbor — all of them.
And doing this always entails the need to act before additional attacks are carried out. When the security of a nation is endangered, a responsible government has to take the actions that are necessary to protect its citizens and eliminate the threat that confronts them. And sometimes, this requires preemption.
I have to say that in the history of democracies, preemption has been, in my mind, the most difficult choice for leaders to make, because at the time of the decision you could never prove the critics wrong, you could never show them the great catastrophe that was avoided by preemptive action. And yet we now know that had the democracies taken preemptive action to bring down Hitler in the 1930s, the worst horrors in history could have been avoided.
PHILLIPS: Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu testifying there before the House Government Reform Committee. A hearing is taking place entitled Conflict With Iraq, an Israeli Perspective. The former prime minister basically coming out and saying that weapons inspections have been ineffective. He believes they would continue to be ineffective, and that if Iraq were to even attack Israel, Israel would respond — making the final point that if you intend to defeat terror, you go after the entire network of terror, and that includes Saddam Hussein.
November 17th, 2005 at 3:38 pm
The beef of this report IS we are threatened by MODEL AIRPLANES? Or we think we may be at risk of attack by model airplanes? Or attack is emminant by model airplanes? This is NOT even close to being in the same league as Pearl Harbor.??
November 18th, 2005 at 2:01 am
ISRAEL WILL NEVER LIFT A ZIONIST GODLESS FINGER TO HELP ANY CHRISTIAN NATION LIKE AMERICA ALL THEY WILL DO IS STAY THE PARASITIC WELFARE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.Judaism is a religion; but Zionism is a political movement started mainly by East European (Ashkenazi) Jews who for centuries have been the main force behind communism/socialism. The ultimate goal of the Zionists is one ONE-WORLD GOVERMENT UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE ZIONISTS AND THE ZIONIST-ORIENTED JEWISH INTERNATIONAL BANKERS.
Communism/socialism are merely tools to help them accomplish their goal.
Israel’s Kibbutz system is a Marxist idea brought to Israel by the Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel mainly from Poland and Russia. These Jews are part of that bunch of Jews know as the BOLSHEVIKS. Before 1917, they were the force that laid the foundation for the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 in Russia and the start of Communism. Jews are NOT one race of people,the Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa and the Ashkenazi ZIONIST Jews come from Eastern Europe. The Sephardic is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are the Jews described in the Bible because they lived in the area described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs — Ashkenazi Jews. Because these Khazar Ashkenazi Jews merely chose Judaism, they are not really Jews — at least not blood Jews,the “God’s Chosen People” myth: JESUS said, ‘Beware of those who call themselves Jews and are not, for they lie’THEY ARE OF SATAN. the Ashkenazi ZIONIST Jews are the people to whom JESUS was referring.
Great Britain offered the Zionists land in Africa. This the Zionists rejected: they wanted Palestine! In Germany, the average Jews were victims of the Zionist elite who worked hand in hand with the Nazis. Many of those same Zionist Jews who, in Germany, had worked with the Nazis, came to Israel and joined hands with the Zionist/Communist Jews from Poland and Russia. It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion. the U.S. Goverment, dominated by Zionist Jews, are draining the pockets and purses of American taxpayers to support Israel’s socialist economy and war machine. IF AMERICAN BOYS DIE IN A FUTURE MIDEAST WAR, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THOSE RESPONSIBLE WILL BE THE ZIONIST JEWS OF AMERICA and THE WEAKSPINED POLITICIAN IN WASHINGTON, D.C.WHO BOW TO THEIR ZIONIST LORDS. More American boys will die because of these clever murderous Zionists, WHO, incidentally, have been responsible for pushing America into WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, the KOREAN WAR and the VIETNAM WAR. While Zionist International Bankers and other Zionist Jews were busy counting their profits from those wars, American mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters were mourning the loss of their sons and brothers. It has been discovered that some weapons used by Soviet forces in Afghanistan were MADE IN AMERICA and originally shipped to Israel.
Also, it has been learned that some weapons used by Cuban forces in Angola were MADE IN AMERICA and originally shipped to Israel. The Zionist controlled news-media in America has kept from the American people the news that Israel is intensely racist. It is a waste of time to talk about fighting communism and the problems it has caused; and it is a waste of time to talk about the international problems facing America UNLESS the main cause of those problems has been identified. The cause of course is the Zionist oriented Jewish International Bankers and the Zionist Jews who operate behind a cloak of secrecy
November 18th, 2005 at 10:09 am
(For Apollonian.) Christianity is the religion of the multicultural Roman Empire. A mass tendancy to believe in Christianity is only possible under the cirumstances of extreme stability.
Judaism is the religion of ancient Israel, a one nationality state. A mass tendancy to believe in Judaism is only possible when extreme protectionist/isolationalist policies can be practiced by the state.
Islam is the religion of the Arabic peoples who have historically been under siege. Mohammed’s word is the general who will lead his followers out of the grasp of Islam’s besiegers.
The words and stories of Jesus aren’t merely an assault on Judaism, but on all the protectionist/isolationist religions of the caesarean era.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:17 am
You wrote: “In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote that the masses could easily be fooled because, “they would never credit others with the possibility of such great impudence as the complete reversal of facts” - the Big Lie.”
If you are going to accuse anyone of lying I would suggest that you put your own house in order first. The above quote is an attempt to defame a man who had more integrity in his toenail than all the present leaders of the “free” world put together. By sellecting, and then also distorting, only a part of what was written you have placed yourself in the same camp of those you accuse of lying. As it appears you have never read Mein Kampf and your quote is but the parroting of what you have heard, I suggest you read the whole passage and then be honest enough to correct it online.
November 18th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The US decision to stress the threat posed by Iraq’s supposed weapons of mass destruction above all others was taken for “bureaucratic” reasons to justify the Administrations real reasons for preemptively going to war with Iraq, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was quoted in an interview with Vanity Fair as saying:
“For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.”
Wolfowitz admitted that from the outset as U.S. inspectors were failing to find weapons of mass destruction within Iraq contrary to so many claims from the White House, Iraq’s supposed cache of WMD had never been the most important casus belli. It was simply one of several reasons.
The only reason for the Iraqi War was because it was “politically convenient” to Bush and his administration after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
The attacks were the huge excuse the administration needed and would use to legitimize the preemptive war on Iraq and we all know the lies they used to sell their agenda to the congress, America and the world.
Americans are finally waking up to the fact that they have been and still are being duped and lied to by this Bush administration and it is showing in an ever growing lack of trust for Bush and his cabal of loyalist.
Is there any question that Bush, Cheney, rumsfield, Powell, Rice and others in the administration outright lied to get us involved in this war with Iraq, NONE WHAT SO EVER, OF COURSE THEY LIED, RIGHT FROM THE START !
Fanatics just don’t live in the mid-east, obviously their are some right in the White House !
November 18th, 2005 at 3:52 pm
Whatreallyhappened.com link to Shock and Awe gallery is an eye opener about these dangerous people (Iraqis) and how Our nation invaded them, attacked their lives, their homes, their families on the workds of these leaders, who have made a fortune for the military industrial complex. Take a moment to view the real scenes. These are people who have every right to the promises our leaders have been spewing, selling and that we will ultimately pay for. We cannot distance ourselves from this horror much longer. The debt in money and Karma comes back to the backs of the American people who have been goaded into this mess.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:42 pm
In the last 70 years, America has hit the skids - particularly in the last 40.
Why?
People are animals, and they subsist in subspecies (races) that fight for territory and power. One of the most parasitical, conniving, and destructive (to other subspecies) are jews. Read Professor Kevin MacDonald’s academic book “The Culture of Critique,” or go here:
go.vnn.com
November 18th, 2005 at 8:31 pm
All this is well and good and I hope that my countrymen will finally wake up and see the truth..But the bottom line is no matter what is done to the current administration for their treasonous acts, the legislation passed during their reign will not be changed, which is the puppetmasters intent..the administration is expendable..
November 19th, 2005 at 9:53 am
I’m half expecting the Nation of Islam to show up on this board and get it closed down. Anyways, after reading a couple of anti-Semitic posts, I want to add my two cents.
Around the mid 1950’s, it gradually became acceptable to be spoiled and worthless. By about the 1970’s, that attitude was not uncommon at all. Today, that’s now the cultural norm in all the established communities and sadly it is the driving force behind the consumer driven economy.
There’s a fancy name for being spoiled worthless, PAPD, or passive-aggressive personality disorder. In fact, here’s a link on it:
http://www.toad.net/~arcturus/dd/papd.htm
After you read it, here’s an assignment for you. What political movement will these next-to-unemployable people naturally gravitate to?
The other day there was a story on how people who eat sauerkraut are less prone to the flu. I think it’s probably because they’re not spoiled and other aspects of their lifestyles will more than likely reflect that.
I couldn’t help but wonder if nature would be doing us the favour if it sneezed these people off the face of the earth with a flu epidemic.
End of rant. You can go back to Jew-bashing. (I wish you wouldn’t though.)
November 19th, 2005 at 2:05 pm
Why is it that when you begin investigating most of the nasty side of national events in the US (i.e. Twin Towers) you do, in fact, arrive in Israel’s AIPAC, the PNAC or the Lukids most recent agenda?
Anti-semite. Nah! I don’t fall for that worn out whine.
It’s far more troubling than that!
There are more than nuggets of truth in the notion that the Israeli government and her dual-citizens (like Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Bremmer, Kristol)consider the USA their weapon of war, their WMD and their fields that produce the fodder which is our kids boots on the ground fighting their war!
It has nothing to do with Torah true Jews! Zionist are not cut from the same mold.
The worn-out anti-semite finger pointing whimpy cry for ‘mama’…just doesn’t work any longer. What a lame false flag!
November 19th, 2005 at 4:59 pm
NOTE: I personally am not anti-semitic nor do I have a problem with any race or religion. I criticize specific actions, like the use of Depleted Uranium or the building of that huge wall in Israel- it’s not anti-semtic to declare that wall an unlawful land-grab.
It’s not anti-semitic to notice that while the world has focused on Iraq for the last 3 years, the situation in Israel has been quietly buried. 42,000 trees bulldozed in and around Gaza in one month, now Israel pulls out and surrounds Gaza, launching air raids and bombs… US Tax dollars at work- before Sept 11, that’s why they hate us (mp3).
May 9th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Why is it when you talk down a Jew you are called anti-semitic?
And when you talk down blacks, whites, indians, mexicans - there is no name for it. This sucks. Damm Hollywood!
ANYWAYS - JEWS DO NOT LEARN FROM THEIR PAST MISTAKES:
Timeline
Joseph/Egypt - Jews were welcomed by Egyptians - tried to fudge with their country - got screwed (slaves)
Anyways to keep things short, see link
Below is a timeline of Jewish Persecution from 70CE to Present time.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers.htm
Jews were persecuted and kicked out from every country in the World.
Last Country: Germany - Jews went in - tried to manipulate the economy - got screwed.
Now USA - “well guess what is going to happen?” I bet history will repeat itself.
Jews although smart, never learn. Jews like Judas, their judgment is clouded by money/wealth and selfish behavior.
Jews should ponder on the question on why is it everyone dislikes them want to rid them.
And oh, by the way. For Bush to convince America to go to war with Iran. Something extraordinary will have to happen on America’s soil (perhaps a base in the desert will get nuked). It is only logical.
And guess who will be behind it? The same people who do not want Iran to have the ability to attack them.
Cheers